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hereby or thereby

Kurtleen
User since 2012
Posts: 11

17 Aug. 2012

Hi,


In the story "A Cleaner Corporation (Scene 3 of 4)" i "stumbled" (thanks to correct me, if the verb is not the good one) bewteen two terms


'hereby' or 'thereby'


In the explanations :
-The term 'thereby' refers to an action which is distant in time or space. It means 'by that document' or 'as a result of that letter'. Since Luna is writing her own letter, we need the closer term: 'hereby'.


-'Hereby' is the best choice here. This little word means 'by this document' or 'as a result of this letter'. Luna is saying that her letter serves as notice that the contract between Delavigne and the cleaning company has been ended. Another example: 'I hereby resign from my job at this company'.




Luna DeLune wrote her letter to the cleaning compagny


It is therefore my obligation to inform you that the contract between our two companies is hereby terminated


I think i understand 'hereby' in this context


But i'm sorry, i don't understand very well how to use 'thereby'


Could you give me a concret example?


Thanks in advance.


Regards

4 comments

  • User since 2012
    Posts: 11

    20 Aug. 2012

    Hi εBrain,
    Thank εBrain. i'll try to capture the subtlety


    "This system" is something which we refer, but this system is not here.




    In my example, Since Luna is writing her own letter, we need the closer term: 'hereby'.


    but is it because she uses here, this letter to inform the staff that the contract between our two companies is terminated (hereby terminated)
    or because this is her letter which announce the contract end?


    Regards
  • User since 2012
    Posts: 11

    17 Aug. 2012

    Hi,


    In the story "A Cleaner Corporation (Scene 3 of 4)" i "stumbled" (thanks to correct me, if the verb is not the good one) bewteen two terms


    'hereby' or 'thereby'


    In the explanations :
    -The term 'thereby' refers to an action which is distant in time or space. It means 'by that document' or 'as a result of that letter'. Since Luna is writing her own letter, we need the closer term: 'hereby'.


    -'Hereby' is the best choice here. This little word means 'by this document' or 'as a result of this letter'. Luna is saying that her letter serves as notice that the contract between Delavigne and the cleaning company has been ended. Another example: 'I hereby resign from my job at this company'.




    Luna DeLune wrote her letter to the cleaning compagny


    It is therefore my obligation to inform you that the contract between our two companies is hereby terminated


    I think i understand 'hereby' in this context


    But i'm sorry, i don't understand very well how to use 'thereby'


    Could you give me a concret example?


    Thanks in advance.


    Regards
  • User since 2010
    Posts: 115

    30 Aug. 2012

    Hi Kurtleen,


    Basically, if the action described happens because of what is being said or written NOW, we say "hereby".


    For example, in the opening speech of the Olympic Games, someone usually says "I hereby declare these Olympic Games open".


    If the action happens because of something mentioned BEFORE, we say "thereby".


    For example, "John sent a rude text to Brian, thereby ending their professional relationship".


    I hope this helps!


    Sam
  • User since 2009
    Posts: 613

    20 Aug. 2012

    I've just found an example on the net : "This system should alert guards of possible dangers or intrusions, thereby enabling guards to do what they do best: assessing the situation and taking the appropriate action". Specialists will tell if it is an appropriate example as far as the English language is concerned. Anyway, it seems to fit the security level on this network ;)

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